Oh, that is both interesting and sad. However I think we can still use our examples-- we are looking for good female characters in movies, which I propose is possible even if the movie is not good or even female friendly.

And I disagree with her list-- Aliens has two female characters who talk about things other than men. In fact, if you define "talking" loosely, it has three (Alien queen).

It does, oddly, bring up the next movies I was going to ask you about-- the Charlie's Angels flicks. They are obviously highly capable females with many areas of expertise, and yet the films are really interested in their boobs and butts (which they in fact use repeatedly as secret weapons against bad guys). So do these films make the cut or not?